The One Type Of Hydraulic System You Don’t Want!

500HPU1One of our members (name withheld for reasons you’ll understand in a moment) sent me this question:

“Our hydraulic power units are Kubota 86 hp and Deutz 76 hp 4 cylinder diesel systems. We use a 40 GPM gear pump with a splitter valve to create two circuits of 20 GPM, each with a variable flow control. We have a diverter valve upstream to combine flows if needed. The gear pump can handle the trash in offshore oilfield hydraulics and is inexpensive compared to piston pumps. The pressure relief valve is set at 3000 PSI.

A gear-type flow splitter would be better but is much more expensive. The flow controls we use are inexpensive – but the down side is they create unwanted heat. The flow-through relief valve is another problem source of heat – it dumps past the cartridge port back to tank during normal operation.

The biggest problem we experience is not enough cooling – trying to find a 12 VDC cooler that is not too expensive that can handle salt water (Gulf of Mexico oilfield operations). We looked at a hydraulic fan motor but it was too expensive. This problem could make an interesting article for your blog.”

An interesting article for this blog? As you can see, he did offer.

There are four problems here:

1. Being cheap to the penny;
2. Technical ignorance;

And as a result of 1 & 2:

3. Asking the wrong questions;
4. And looking for a ‘silver bullet’.

Let’s take a look at each in more detail.

Being cheap to the penny

With hydraulics, like most other things, you get what you pay for. Design on price alone (especially if you don’t know what you’re doing) and you’ll end up with a load of rubbish. Sure, there are lots of hydraulic equipment users out there who don’t know any better. And plenty of equipment builders who are short-sighted enough to accommodate them.

But if this guy can’t build a properly engineered system, fit for the purpose and get his oilfield customers to pay that price – whatever it may be, he should go find something else to do. I mean, someone please remind me what the price of oil is at the moment? Sheesh.

Technical ignorance

If you are going to go ‘cheap’ you need to know what you’re doing. By that I mean: what you can and can NOT get away with. I don’t think it would be possible to come up with a more inefficient hydraulic system than the one described above. Let’s take a quick look at what it comprises:

Gear pump – a.k.a. heat generating device
Spool-type flow divider – a.k.a. heat generating device
Variable flow control(s) – a.k.a. heat generating device
Pilot-operated relief valve – a.k.a. heat generating device

Have I upset anyone yet? Write this in blood: EVERY component in a hydraulic system is a heat generating device. But some are MUCH worse, read: more inefficient, than others.

So if you grab a whole bunch of the most inefficient ones and throw them together, you better make sure you’ve got a BIG cooler. But wait, the ‘budget’ won’t allow for a cooler will it? Darn it then, let’s just cross our fingers and hope it will work OK without one. It’s false hope.

Asking the wrong questions and looking for a ‘silver bullet’

He knows he’s got an overheating problem. And he’s also at least vaguely aware that his choice of components is a contributing factor. But he’s completely paralyzed by his wallet. Asking: “How can I get this hydraulic system to run cool without sending any more money?” is futile. Because it presupposes there is a magic solution. One which will defy the physical laws at the root of the problem. There is no such solution.

So what is the answer? Well despite this member’s protestations to the contrary, I reckon I could design a power unit around a variable displacement piston pump and still be cost-competitive enough to consign his cheap ‘n nasty version to the scrap heap. It would definitely be a lot simpler. And it would certainly work out cheaper in the long run.

In other words, building or buying a hydraulic machine on price alone is usually a costly mistake. And to discover six other costly mistakes you want to be sure to avoid with your hydraulic equipment, get “Six Costly Mistakes Most Hydraulics Users Make… And How You Can Avoid Them!” available for FREE download here.

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  1. I have been in the O&G arena for over 35 years. Some of the equipment manufactured for the perceived uber rich oilfield clients would be laughable if it were not so serious. There are a number of issues. One is everything is now bought on price alone. Secondly so called OEM’s have produced ill designed cheaply made but expensive to buy equipment and then expect the purchaser to sort out the inbuilt problems themselves or just put up with it. OEM support consists of sending out a USD2500/day service tech to sort out the problem. This inevitably consists of a report outlining the failings of the owner/end user and someone being fired for not looking after the equipment. Repeat, repeat, repeat. You cannot make a silk purse out of a sows ear.
    When it comes to repairs even the owners can be at fault. I was recently asked to quote on the rebuild of a very expensive HD industrial automatic transmission. It was pointed out to the owner that the oil cooler needed to be part of the overhaul as the entire system was filled with transmission debris, along with the severely corroded external electronic control circuitry and connections that would not survive being removed and refitted. The newly installed hydraulic hosing did not meet fire rating requirements either and would not pass muster. The bean counters only wanted a price for the trans overhaul and were not interested in the other items as the original report was “failed transmission”.
    It is now a continual race to the bottom in terms of cost and equipment quality and reliability and the guys at the coal face are over it.

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